SB Charite Disc Replacement 2-Level

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SB Charite Disc Replacement 2-Level

Postby garyhale » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:01 am

Hi Guys,

I am new to the fourm. Interestign to see what is going on here. 5 yr chronic lower back pain sufferer with L5/S1 DDD back in 1999. Been doing clinical piltes for last 5 years which has helped stave off the pain somewhat, but been getting worse the last year again and paid medication not as effective.

My wife and I have just had a new baby boy, and it has come home to me now that I cannot run around with him, kick the footy, or even hold him for long-perido of times - ths has become somewhat frustrating! Just got updated MRIs, etc and foudn now that also have slight degeneration at L4/L5. Looks like a two level job - L3/L4 is good.

Seeing a surgeon in Perth, Dr Eamonn McCloskey, tomorrow to get the prognosis and he is looking at SB Charite, but that was when it was single level - dont know what he will do now??

Appreciate advice from anyone in Western Australia, or Australia who has had two-level artifical disc replacement using SB Charite device, who they saw, and their experience.

Thanks,

Gary
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Postby Joanne B » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:27 am

Hi Gary, I cant offer any advise, I just wanted to welcome you to the forum. I am sure you will get a few answers from some of the wonderful people on here.
Joanne

43 years old, with spondylolethesis and stenosis, have a revised date with the surgeon August 2 2004
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Postby Deborah » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:51 am

Hi Gary
My name is Deborah, I had a double disc replacement in February 2003 by *** Edited by Bad Backs Support ***, on the Gold Coast NSW. I was 2 weeks off not being able to use my left leg again had i not had the operation due to the nerve being so far pushed into my spinal chord.

I spent 16 days in hospital but have been going ok since.

Any questions, feel free to ask
Deborah
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Postby Darren W » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:57 pm

Hi everyone,Im new to this.Im a 36 yr old male who first hurt my back in 1989 in a forklift accident.After seeing 4 surgeons who all held their hands up and said they couldnt guarantee success,I finally found a surgeon who performed a lamenectomy which was successful.I now had no sciatica and my back pain had decreased dramatically.
Then in Feb 04 I hurt it at work and after x-rays,C.Ts and an M.R.I I have two herniated discs at L4-5 AND L5-S1.Last week I was seen by a medico/legal who said that there was nothing wrong with me(surprise,surprise).When I explained that I physically cant work he suggested another lamenectomy.
I have been reading the stories in here about the disc replacement and have really focused my attention on this procedure rather than a fusion.As coincidence may have it I bumped into a bloke at my physio session who had a double disc replacement(L4-5,L5-S1) 11 weeks ago by Dr Mathew *** Edited by Bad Backs Support ***.He said he couldnt be happier with the results and that Scott-Youngs bedside manner and follow up were nothing short of brilliant.He had talked to another couple of Scott-Youngs patients who have had the same success,one of them did a triathelon 9 mths after surgery.
This was all I had to hear,so I am booked in to see *** Edited by Bad Backs Support *** in Sept.I will keep you updated on my proceedings.Good luck to everyone, "talk" to you soon.
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Postby Deborah » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:38 am

<br />Hi everyone,Im new to this.Im a 36 yr old male who first hurt my back in 1989 in a forklift accident.After seeing 4 surgeons who all held their hands up and said they couldnt guarantee success,I finally found a surgeon who performed a lamenectomy which was successful.I now had no sciatica and my back pain had decreased dramatically.
Then in Feb 04 I hurt it at work and after x-rays,C.Ts and an M.R.I I have two herniated discs at L4-5 AND L5-S1.Last week I was seen by a medico/legal who said that there was nothing wrong with me(surprise,surprise).When I explained that I physically cant work he suggested another lamenectomy.
I have been reading the stories in here about the disc replacement and have really focused my attention on this procedure rather than a fusion.As coincidence may have it I bumped into a bloke at my physio session who had a double disc replacement(L4-5,L5-S1) 11 weeks ago by *** Edited by Bad Backs Support ***.He said he couldnt be happier with the results and that *** Edited by Bad Backs Support *** bedside manner and follow up were nothing short of brilliant.He had talked to another couple of *** Edited by Bad Backs Support *** patients who have had the same success,one of them did a triathelon 9 mths after surgery.
This was all I had to hear,so I am booked in to see *** Edited by Bad Backs Support *** in Sept.I will keep you updated on my proceedings.Good luck to everyone, "talk" to you soon.
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Postby Deborah » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:40 am

<br />Hi everyone,Im new to this.Im a 36 yr old male who first hurt my back in 1989 in a forklift accident.After seeing 4 surgeons who all held their hands up and said they couldnt guarantee success,I finally found a surgeon who performed a lamenectomy which was successful.I now had no sciatica and my back pain had decreased dramatically.
Then in Feb 04 I hurt it at work and after x-rays,C.Ts and an M.R.I I have two herniated discs at L4-5 AND L5-S1.Last week I was seen by a medico/legal who said that there was nothing wrong with me(surprise,surprise).When I explained that I physically cant work he suggested another lamenectomy.




I have been reading the stories in here about the disc replacement and have really focused my attention on this procedure rather than a fusion.As coincidence may have it I bumped into a bloke at my physio session who had a double disc replacement(L4-5,L5-S1) 11 weeks ago by *** Edited by Bad Backs Support ***.He said he couldnt be happier with the results and that Scott-Youngs bedside manner and follow up were nothing short of brilliant.He had talked to another couple of *** Edited by Bad Backs Support *** patients who have had the same success,one of them did a triathelon 9 mths after surgery.
This was all I had to hear,so I am booked in to see *** Edited by Bad Backs Support *** in Sept.I will keep you updated on my proceedings.Good luck to everyone, "talk" to you soon.
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Postby sunitan7 » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:28 pm

<br />Hi Guys,

I am new to the fourm. Interestign to see what is going on here. 5 yr chronic lower back pain sufferer with L5/S1 DDD back in 1999. Been doing clinical piltes for last 5 years which has helped stave off the pain somewhat, but been getting worse the last year again and paid medication not as effective.

My wife and I have just had a new baby boy, and it has come home to me now that I cannot run around with him, kick the footy, or even hold him for long-perido of times - ths has become somewhat frustrating! Just got updated MRIs, etc and foudn now that also have slight degeneration at L4/L5. Looks like a two level job - L3/L4 is good.

Seeing a surgeon in Perth, *** Edited by Bad Backs Support ***, tomorrow to get the prognosis and he is looking at SB Charite, but that was when it was single level - dont know what he will do now??

Appreciate advice from anyone in Western Australia, or Australia who has had two-level artifical disc replacement using SB Charite device, who they saw, and their experience.

Thanks,

Gary
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Postby sunitan7 » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:00 pm

Hi everyone,
I am also one of these new people to the forum. After browsing through a lot of different sites, I am pleased to see that we finally have a true blue Aussie site trying to help each other.
<b></b><u></u>garyhale<b></b><u></u>]I to am a chronic back sufferer, now for 17 years. I have had three lots of surgery to my L5/S1 and have torn and bulging discs at level L3/L4 and L4/L5. I am also from Perth and have been seen by the mentioned specialist. If you were to have the best orthopaedic surgeon in Perth, then Eamonn and Peter Woodlands are whom I would recommend, however if you were to ask me who a good Neurosurgeon is in Perth, and who has had the most experience with ADIs, then I cannot speak highly enoough of Mr Paul Bannan. His care for his patients is impeccable both before and after, I should know, because after all he is the man that has just done a one level Maverick ADI to my L5/S1. I am not here to tell you what to do, or who to see, however, I did have other specialists for many years, and they just gave up on me, preferring to give a life on Narcotics! I am a fighter, and have searched for the best and got more than one opinion. I would like to question why they would want to do an two level ADI if you only have slight degeneration of L4/L5. This disc probably has been stressed by your L5/S1, and if you once again had a fully functional disc (ADI) at this level it would take the stress of the L4/L5. The other thing that I did have done was a full workup by a Pain Management specialist, who did a discography and found that although my L3 to L5 levels were in bad shape, they actually as far as discs were concerned, did not cause me any pain, and that my pain was I would have said 80% in the L5/S1 disc. Perhaps this is also worth considering. One thing for sure is DONT GO FOR FUSION unless it is your absolute last resort, as there is so much new technology going with ADIs, etc at the moment, that it is so promising for us back pain sufferers with DDD. I have had the recomendation of a 4 level fusion which the specialist was not prepared to do, as he felt that I would not be any better having it done, to a Morphine Pump, to go home and take narcotics. We have to fight and communicate to get the best for our bodies. Something we are entitled too! That is why I am so thrilled to find this sight. I hope Gary that I am not to late for you, and that this posting has been of some help. Keep us posted and if I can help in any way just let me know.
Cheers Sunitan
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Postby garyhale » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:21 pm

Sunitan,

My intial panick after seeing my X-rays and MRIs noticed that there was a slight deterioration ofthe L4/L5, and therefore I thought I would be a two-level candidate. Eamonn has since stated I woudl only need an L5/S1 single level replacement which is good news. Awaitng to get a date for the discography to see the problems.

I also saw Paul Graziotti who does the Rhyzotomy (deadesn nerves at facets joints through injection - this was good for me for about six months), and the IDET procedure - hot wire indisc to repair tears, cracks, etc - which I had done to the L5/S1 disc which helped my pain for about two years (about 20-30% improvement)and allowed me to increase my activties with piltes.). I may yet decide to wait a little longer until some short-term results from Eamonn, Peter and Dr Bannan are know. I woudl liek to get a secnd opinion, so maybe Dr Bannan may be a good guy to see - I saw him about 5 years ago and he recommended I try conservative approach first - which I have done for the last five years. Did he say why he was using the Maverick device??

Agree Eamonn an Peter Wodlans are highly respected, aslong with dr Bannan.

Bottom line - still consdiering my options, awaiting discography to advise, and deciding whether I wait a bit longer, or have it done now - probably the hardest decision of all - bottom line is that I will ahve to have it done at some point. I am pretty sure I will go TDR for one-level, just need to make sure I ahve considered all the information.

Thanks to all for your comments.

Cheers,

Gary

<br />Hi everyone,
I am also one of these new people to the forum. After browsing through a lot of different sites, I am pleased to see that we finally have a true blue Aussie site trying to help each other.
<b></b><u></u>garyhale<b></b><u></u>]I to am a chronic back sufferer, now for 17 years. I have had three lots of surgery to my L5/S1 and have torn and bulging discs at level L3/L4 and L4/L5. I am also from Perth and have been seen by the mentioned specialist. If you were to have the best orthopaedic surgeon in Perth, then Eamonn and Peter Woodlands are whom I would recommend, however if you were to ask me who a good Neurosurgeon is in Perth, and who has had the most experience with ADIs, then I cannot speak highly enoough of Mr Paul Bannan. His care for his patients is impeccable both before and after, I should know, because after all he is the man that has just done a one level Maverick ADI to my L5/S1. I am not here to tell you what to do, or who to see, however, I did have other specialists for many years, and they just gave up on me, preferring to give a life on Narcotics! I am a fighter, and have searched for the best and got more than one opinion. I would like to question why they would want to do an two level ADI if you only have slight degeneration of L4/L5. This disc probably has been stressed by your L5/S1, and if you once again had a fully functional disc (ADI) at this level it would take the stress of the L4/L5. The other thing that I did have done was a full workup by a Pain Management specialist, who did a discography and found that although my L3 to L5 levels were in bad shape, they actually as far as discs were concerned, did not cause me any pain, and that my pain was I would have said 80% in the L5/S1 disc. Perhaps this is also worth considering. One thing for sure is DONT GO FOR FUSION unless it is your absolute last resort, as there is so much new technology going with ADIs, etc at the moment, that it is so promising for us back pain sufferers with DDD. I have had the recomendation of a 4 level fusion which the specialist was not prepared to do, as he felt that I would not be any better having it done, to a Morphine Pump, to go home and take narcotics. We have to fight and communicate to get the best for our bodies. Something we are entitled too! That is why I am so thrilled to find this sight. I hope Gary that I am not to late for you, and that this posting has been of some help. Keep us posted and if I can help in any way just let me know.
Cheers Sunitan
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Postby sunitan7 » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:00 pm

Hi Gary, I am so pleased to have a response,and that you are seriously taking a careful consideration into your options and future treatment. I too was under Paul Graziotti, for nearly 9 years, however I have changed to another pain management specialist with whom I am extremely happy and finally have an excellent repore. This man also really cares about his patients and has an excellent bedside manner, so important for us vulnerable people in pain. He is currently managing my narcotic/barbituate reduction program (instead of it being left to my poor GP) and also my total pain management program. Have never had this before! Going really well. As I have had previous surgery I have a lot of nerve and surrounding area scarring, which we knew before surgery, would possibly increase my leg pain because of the stretching of the nerve roots.(went from less than 4mm at the widest end to 10mm increase in height!)However I was happy to accept this as it is only a temporary thing which my Pain Management specialist is treating with nerve root injections and Neurontin. I am waiting for my wound to heal, and then he wants to due an epidural over two days in hospital. I did have an unfortunate superficial wound infection which should be healed in the next week or so. Otherwise slowly, slowly at my own pace I am improving, however I need to be patient, as I am not a straight forward case like yourself. Your biggest advantage is that you have not had any previous surgery (huge success rate with this situation) and you have been doing clinical pilates, which the ADI post op physio is based on. I was given the Maverick as opposed to the Prodisc (last minute decision by Paul Bannan) as he felt that it would be more suitable for me especially with regards to my facet joints. Remember we are talking DDD which as you are aware from what I gather involves the facets eventually in most cases. It is very similar to the Prodisc only totally metal and is another one of latest ADIs to come out. I am due for my 6 week check up tomorrow and will run that one past him again out of interest, ok. Dont forget we are all individuals and what applies for one is different to another. Keep me posted, and hope my information is of help.
Cheers and good night
Sunitan
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